I want to but I want to talk to something that's a little bit unlucky for Donald Trump.

Ivon, you've spent a lot of time crisscrossing Arizona and other states.

Um, talking to Trump supporters and and what you've heard uh has really surprised you.

Let me read this one um observation you made in in the Atlantic earlier this week.

Midterm elections are typically rough for an incumbent president's party, but this year threatens to be brutal.

Trump's approval is lower right now than it was at this point ahead of the 2018 midterm elections.

What are you what what what what have you been hearing in the last couple of weeks, last few weeks from MAGA voters?

Yeah, I mean it is the the sacrifices that they are having to make within their own homes and within their old h their own households um to be able to afford this environment.

And this is um very much to to a lot of people this feels like co era prices.

It feels like like psychologically they feel like they are in a really bad economic spot.

They're pre- buying electronics.

They are cutting back on like I said like the family vacations like they feel like they are having to make sacrifices for someone that they didn't want.

But when you say they, you mean specifically people who had voted for Donald Trump?

Trump.

Yes.

Um what are they saying about him specifically when you're asking that?

Like that he hasn't kept his promises.

They haven't kept his promises.

They don't trust him because he promised no new wars.

They're they are poorer today than they were before he took office.

Their wages have not kept up with growth uh or or with uh inflation.

Um they're paying more at the pump obviously, especially workingclass uh rural voters who pay for diesel every day.

It's six bucks a gallon in Arizona.

Look, Arizona's red obviously, but do you think that the Democrats have any chance at all in the midterms in a state like Arizona?

I do.

I I there are two toss up House seats.

One held by Representative David Schwikert, Scottsdale based.

Wealthy voters there are livid.

They are very tuned in.

This is a lot of um independent voters, centrist Republicans who have just had it down south in the Tucsonbased um congressional district held by Representative Juan Suscomani, a Republican that has narrowly flipped back and forth over the last several cycles.

And that is a seat that Democrats uh think that they can they can flip.

They can pick up two seats in Arizona easily, possibly a third.

Right.

Are the Democrats uh Annie, are they maybe getting a little bit ahead of themselves in Washington?

I mean, we're we're we're in this Yeah.

No, no, no.

We're we're we're in a little bit of a a hubris roller coaster on the part of both parties where they both think that they're doing better sometimes than they actually are.

Um, you know, I have spent quite a lot of time uh running into Democrats this week.

It's been a busy week in Washington.

Um and I have run into quite a lot of overjoyed uh very excited Democrats.

The words that I heard um recently that have been ringing in my head was from one Democrat who said they will take the house back and there will be a subpoena cannon focused at the White House.

So they are getting ready for um investigation.

I know I've been to those basketball games with the subpoena cannon.

Those are exciting.

Yeah.

Think a t-shirt's coming all of a sudden you're in court.

Um uh we'll we'll we'll see.

Uh I mean it's a long time between now and November, but I do think that the prices get fixed in people's minds and and they don't loosen up in mentally for a long time.

Even if it the it's very hard to turn this turn the gas prices around so quickly.

Like it does take a long time to get some of this supply, you know, through the Gulf and and and through the system.

So once it shuts off, it does take a while.

It's like an oil tanker.

It's a wild move.

Uh there are two big events coming up in Washington.

Um the lesser of the two, the White House correspondents dinner.

Um where the president will celebrate the First Amendment and the Free Press.

Um I'll leave my commentary for after the show.

Um the the uh big event, King Charles and Queen Camila will be in Washington uh starting on Monday to celebrate the 250th anniversary of us beating them in a their family at least in a in a war.

Um Annie, they're they're a weird combination, King Charles and Donald Trump.

Yes.

Yes.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, they have some potential similarities.

They both care a lot about architecture and building.

um they might have different styles um but they do they do they you could imagine them talking about this having this in common but look this is a moment for the king you know they um the the relationship right now between the US and the UK feels to me at least as fraught as it's been in many years um and the the president regularly mocks Karmmer the behind his back he to to aids he's even tweeted jokes about him on his truth social account but but The king is somebody that the president has really really respects and really in a way that that he there wasn't this relationship with Biden who was Irish and had this sort of disdain for the I want to say disdain but he didn't have the same kind of love of the monarch.

He doesn't romanticize it.

Thank you.

So so it is a it is a kind of interesting dynamic and moment for the king to do something that um that that he play an act play a a very real role on the world stage.

Right.

Um, Tyler, last few seconds.

The Oval Office tour is gonna be something.

It's gonna be remarkable.

But I I think Annie's really right.

Like Trump revery and he loved the state visit that he had in the United Kingdom.

And I think this is an opportunity.

The Brits see this as an opportunity to reestablish a good relationship with Trump because they know how much he reverses the king and the queen.

Right.

Well, we'll see how that goes.

It's going to be an interesting moment.

Um, that's all the time we do have for tonight.

However, I want to thank our guests for joining me and I want to thank you at home for watching us.

For more of Avon's reporting on why President Trump's MAGA base is shrinking, please visit theat atlantic.com.

I'm Jeffrey Goldberg.

Good night from Washington.